'Mudge's Home for Properly Delineated Waterfowl (PG)

A place for you writers to complain about your writing and the writing process... maybe posting what you got done today to make you feel like less of a writing failure.

Moderator: Metaphor Makers

User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:50 pm

Sorry, Mlou; wasn't clear: this is an excerpt from "Hunting the Peagasus", a story I had mentioned and X wanted to see part of. It's a bit of a non-sequitor. Sorry.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi

"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge

www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com
www.imaginationtogo.com
www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
Mlou
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 16613
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:24 pm
Location: Vermont

Postby Mlou » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:52 pm

Well, thank God. I thought it had finally happened...I'd gone senile! :D

Do you really mean Peagasus?
nothing is ever simply Yes or No. There's always a But...


GINGERBREAD MAN by Mary Lou Healy at Amazon.com http://www.publishamerica.com/shopping/ ... ogid=16658 at Publish America
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:05 pm

Mlou wrote:Do you really mean Peagasus?


Um . . . yeah, actually. There's a reason.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:07 pm

refresh my memory on what i'm reading mudge?
i think i'm gonna have to come back and read it again.
Behind the Press
There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
Mlou
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 16613
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:24 pm
Location: Vermont

Postby Mlou » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:12 pm

Okay, I'll buy that. I can already think of a couple of reasons for "pea" and a couple of idiotic ones as well. I can ALWAYS think of the idiotic things faster and easier. *sigh* But...on with the story!
nothing is ever simply Yes or No. There's always a But...





GINGERBREAD MAN by Mary Lou Healy at Amazon.com http://www.publishamerica.com/shopping/ ... ogid=16658 at Publish America
User avatar
pengwenn
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 5534
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:01 pm
Location: a nice padded cubicle
Contact:

Postby pengwenn » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:11 pm

Mudge, you always do a great job at setting the mood and leaving the reader wanting more. I admire that. And I'm envious.
Is this my reality or yours?
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:17 pm

Thanks, Pengy.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
Mlou
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 16613
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:24 pm
Location: Vermont

Postby Mlou » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:22 pm

Apple polisher! :-D (But she's right. You do a fine job!)
nothing is ever simply Yes or No. There's always a But...





GINGERBREAD MAN by Mary Lou Healy at Amazon.com http://www.publishamerica.com/shopping/ ... ogid=16658 at Publish America
User avatar
pengwenn
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 5534
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:01 pm
Location: a nice padded cubicle
Contact:

Postby pengwenn » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:31 am

Apple polisher?! Me?! No, I'm a brown noser! :D
Is this my reality or yours?
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:52 am

Well, at least SHE'S clear.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:46 pm

See, it's like this:

A good many moons ago, a friend of mine named David Denton and I sat down and wrote a play. It was an interpretation of the life of Christ, set in the modern day (back when I was arrogant enough to think that was an original idea. No, honest--I really thought that. But anyway . . .)

So a few years later, I re-wrote the whole thing. I mean, David helped me set a few scenes in the beginning, and really drove me to FINISH the work, but the original had been mostly my work anyway, and I had seen some other kids perform it (without MY permission) and realized it needed work. Plus, by then I had met Tom Key, and he had inspired me. :D

Like so many of my projects, the re-write never got finished. :roll: Flash-forward to February of this year. Guy emails me out of the blue, said he'd seen the play years ago, and was it available to buy/lease/perform.

And I freaked out.

I mean, I have a hard time turning loose of anything that is not, in my mind, the best it could be. So I said no way, no chance. Because that high-school performance I had seen had been HORRIBLE: they had added bits and--since they were kids--they were hamming it up quite a bit. So I'd rather it just sit on my hard drive than get slaughtered.

But the guy kept pushing. He was talking a big theatre downtown (Chattanooga). He stressed how much tech equipment they had, and what could be done with it. He mentioned doing original music . . .

Actually, it was the music that got me. Because I had always wanted this to be a musical. So I drug it out, read through it . . . and you know what? It wasn't bad.

So I re-wrote and re-worked, and added half a dozen songs . . . then drew up a contract that said that changes couldn't be made, that it had to be performed as I envisioned it . . . and well, long story short, I more or less self-published it.

So last night was the grand performance. I had comped tickets right in the sweet spot.

. . . not that it mattered. There were only, like, 20 people there. Ten minutes into the performance, I understood why. It was HORRIBLE. Again. The lead actor--coincidently, the son of the executive producer--had a range that was somewhere between oak and maple. Half the people couldn't sing, and the ones that could were using bastardizations of my lyrics that I hardly recognized. The music was all canned, over-synthesized pap, and the cues overran the voices of the actors.

The "major venue" the guy had talked about somehow turned into a gymnasium. Oh, and the "hi-tech" I was promised? No video screens…crackling, static mikes that cut in and out. . .NO FREAKIN SPOTLIGHT, even: you could barely even HEAR the actors if the mikes cut out--but that was better than the loud SHUUUUUUUSH you got when the mikes were ON and the actors got too close to each other.

The choreography was non-existent, and the blocking was just stupid--minor side actors moving in FRONT of major characters while the latter was speaking . . . people talking with their backs to the audience, moving in front of other characters . . . or WORSE, sitting in the background and calling more attention to themselves by doing NOTHING than the principals who were speaking!

That was a MAJOR problem: minor characters "adding" to their parts and upstaging both the immediate action AND the flow and intent of the play. A few of the moves got laughs--but always at the expense of the poignancy of the play. The whole thing had as much energy as a wet noodle mainlining Valium, and all in all, I'm starting to understand why people like Alan Moore have decided to NEVER let their name be attached to an adaption of their respective works: it's just too frustrating.

Or am I overreacting? :shock:
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:53 pm

i dont think you're overreacting. you werent the director and the director promised you a bunch of stuff that never materialized.

maybe if a REAL guy got his hands onto the thing it would come out really well!
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
charlesp
Site Admin
Posts: 13851
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 8:56 pm
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Contact:

Postby charlesp » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:02 pm

Well, as I went over some of the drafts of this before it went out I'm REAL curious about the actual performance as I can actually "see" how these would screw up the play and also "see" how it should be done. While Mudge may be a perfectionist at times I don't think basic stage production values are above the realm of "reasonable expectation".

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C Clarke
"Coffee is sufficiently advanced technology" - Merlin Mann
One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee." - Wally (Dilbert)
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:10 pm

I'll admit, it is NOT an easy play to perform. But yeah, hello? Stage Direction 101?
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:15 pm

why dont you direct it, mudge?
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:18 pm

wasn't in chattanooga . . . wasn't asked to . . . don't have the time, energy or resources to do that anymore . . .
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:22 pm

if you want it to be done, right, tho. . .
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:57 pm

Yeah, well . . . *I* was content to let the thing rot in obscurity . . .
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:03 pm

why do you think everything you do is crap?
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
charlesp
Site Admin
Posts: 13851
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2003 8:56 pm
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Contact:

Postby charlesp » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:11 pm

I think the issue was more that if they weren't going to make the effort to do it RIGHT he'd rather they didn't bug him and make him drop everything else for a few weeks while he brought the script up to snuff as it wasn't a project he was really "burning" to do (but if you offer to PAY for something like that of COURSE he's going to do it).... or that's my take on it :D

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C Clarke
"Coffee is sufficiently advanced technology" - Merlin Mann
One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee." - Wally (Dilbert)
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:18 pm

oh i wasn't asking about this particular project. i was just asking in general :lol:
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:18 pm

Yeah, CP's got it . . . wasn't saying it was crap . . . probably the second-best play I've ever written. There's a difference between thinking stuff is awful, which would be disingenuous, and simply never feeling like it's good ENOUGH.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:21 pm

mudge, i like your stuff a lot and I admire you as a writer A LOT. in fact, reading your stuff usually inspires me to work on my own stuff. so all the comments you say about things not being good enough always make me scratch my head.

now if we're talking about MY WORK. . .that's what's not good enough :lol:
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.
User avatar
TheMudge
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 10279
Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 12:57 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Postby TheMudge » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:26 pm

Well, thank you . . . but I guess I have warped expectations.
"Throughout history, Truth and Love have always won." - M. Ghandi


"Truth and Love often get the crap kicked out of them along the way." -D. Mudge



www.joyfulcurmudgeon.com

www.imaginationtogo.com

www.wowwebnow.com
User avatar
xcheck24
Wordtrip Fixture
Posts: 9733
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
Location: Dirty Jersey
Contact:

Postby xcheck24 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:28 pm

i think we all are harder judges on ourselves compared to how other judge us. . .
Behind the Press

There's always a bloody ghost.

Return to “Writing and Poetry Blogs”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest