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Postby TheMudge » Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:16 am

The only writers that time remembers are the amazing ones, and I've come to the conclusion that there are two ways to be amazing: you either have to be prolific or a genius.

Steven King, for example, has gone the prolific route: he's written--what?--4500 novels by now? And don't get me wrong--he's a good writer, and a surprisingly nice guy, from what I can tell. But even his fans will usually cede that there's a little staleness to some of his work now. Doesn't matter: there is SO much SK material out there now, and all of it sprinkled with nuggets of Amazing, that you could easily teach an entire class in on him and come out of it thinking that he is an amazing writer.

Selective editing, as it were.

Elmore Leonard? Same thing. Ditto with L.Ron Hubbard. ee cummings has maybe a dozen poems that are nothing short of mind-blowing . . . but he has written hundreds--thousands--that range from low-end-of-mediocre to barely-worth-the-paper-they're-printed-on.

Hell, even Shakespeare . . . I mean, there's a REASON they teach Romeo and Juliet, Julius Ceasar, and Hamlet in high school . . . and not Richard III or Henry IV.

Now, the genius route is harder. You have to produce the same amount of gold, but within a limited amount of time. So there can be only so much dross to begin with. Harper Lee. JD Salinger. Margaret Mitchell. Like that.
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Postby JillStar » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:37 am

Steven King cannot help but be stale in many ways now (just look at the made for tv show he just put out). There comes a time when the brain just can't think of new stuff that doesn't sound like all the old stuff and I feel that is what he's doing now.

Of course I don't have lots of novels out, so maybe I should just be quiet now. I find that I myself get a bit stale from paragraph to paragraph which is why I'm contently using my thesaurus and trying new words to get the same-ol-same-ol idea across.

I'm glad you started a blog. ;0)
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Postby TheMudge » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:10 pm

Oh, I agree: I listen to great songwriters, and after awhile, it's like, you know, you already said that. Better, in fact.

I think that's why so many great artists are addicts or go through a dozen spouses or kill themselves . . . we're all looking for inspiration . . .
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Postby JillStar » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:12 pm

Well... someone should tell them that killing themselves is not going to give them inspiration. However it may give someone else inspiration, so maybe it's not all bad.
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Postby TheMudge » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:14 pm

There ARE a lot of good songs about somebody else's suicide.

Actually, that sounds like the name of something: Somebody Else's Suicide . . .
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Postby JillStar » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:20 pm

Yes... that could be the inspiration to a novel or song Mudge. Somebody else's suicide...

Somebody else's suicide rang through my ears
It struck me as a funny way to die
perhaps it was the banana,
perhaps it was the orange peel...

Which ever it was...
to die by fruit enduced suicide
makes me cry with tears of glee.

Ok... I'm off my rocker today... cut me some slack.
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Postby Anblick » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:38 pm

There's also the happiest song one will ever hear about suicide: Don't Fear the Reaper By Blue Oyster Cult
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Postby Power of Cheese » Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:49 pm

Hmm, Jill, did you have a fruit related accident today? That is the first time I've ever heard of death by fruit cocktail.

Mudge - Sadly I have to agree with some of what you say. When I first read the King I was amazed that someone out there could so accurately articulate my reaction to horror. I mean I've never actually been run down by a 56' (57? can't remember) Fury, but if I ever was, I know actually what it would feel like. But after I’ve read 20 some SK horror novels, and had numerous shocks, it looses its edge after awhile. It seemed like something I’ve already read.

As for continued inspiration, I think the success of a writer tends to be diametrically opposed to good sources of inspiration. I think that since SK is such a success and such a well known individual, and individual that never has to work again to earn a dime and has been that way for awhile, that he sort of lives in an ivory tower. I mean, you do have to experience things in life to be able to write about them (I think anyway) and it must be harder and harder for him to "get out there" and experience Americana.
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Postby TheMudge » Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:30 pm

I think that's probably true of ANY artist, Cheese--after awhile, you quit experiencing things. Part of that is life--you get married, have kids, get COMFORTABLE--and part of it is probably laziness. Or fear. You don't care when you have nothing to lose.

And, too, part of it is the machine: Some investor offered ABBA 1 BILLION dollars to reunite and tour for a year. That's a lot of zeros, kiddies. And comparatively easy money. But they said no--they were done with ABBA (although I hear they've since decided to get back together . . .)

I think that's part of what SK was trying to say in "Misery": the writer who is at the point of saying "Enough! I don't want to do this anymore!" But the public won't let it die . . .
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:22 am

My book is starting to bother me. It's been sitting on the back burner, simmering for what? Three or four months now? And I could almost forget about it . . . but now, suddenly, it's back. "Time to work!", it's calling . . . and of course, I don't have time. And of course, my head is a snake pit.

And of course, I'm scared to death . . .
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Postby JillStar » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:25 am

Fear is the mind killer...

...but it proves your alive.
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:26 am

Considering the way I feel this morning, an honor I could do without. But probably true.
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Postby JillStar » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:29 am

I fear so many things in life I will probably live until I'm 133 years old just from the fear alone.

I could pinch myself to double check but I'm afraid of leaving a bruise... SEE... there's that fear again.

Sorry you don't feel good. :(
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:31 am

I should eat. Get coffee. Unload the truck. Take it to get the tires rotated/oil changed. Dr. appointment. Have writing to do. A cartoon to finish. Other stuff. Oh well.

Shower. That'd be good. I can probably handle that . . .
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Postby JillStar » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:34 am

Yup... showers are easy enough and they remove the bed bugs from your hair. Me? I'm actually going into town to the gym and then over to my mom's house to hopefully catch my brother there who is the most difficult person on the planet to get a hold of. Something's wrong in his life and I could tell the last time I saw him... but he's really private UNLESS I actually ask him... then he just lets loose. Got to talk to him cause he's pretty stressed.
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Postby Hyker » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:41 pm

jillstar wrote:Yup... showers are easy enough and they remove the bed bugs from your hair. .


AAAAAAGHHHH! I'm going to take a shower now. Thanks for that.
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Postby Mlou » Tue Mar 30, 2004 12:47 pm

Just don't take your shower at the Bates Motel!
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Postby Hyker » Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:16 pm

*mysterious shadow behind the shower curtain raises an arm with something menacing clenched in its hand...eeeee..eeeeee...eeeeee...eeeeee...* :twisted:

"Mlou! Would you stop squeeling like that and put my rejection notice back on the kitchen counter, can't you see I'm taking a shower?" :shock:
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:13 pm

NO MURDERS ON MY BLOG!
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Postby Mlou » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:41 pm

Sorry, Hyker. Some strange power possesses us. It must be.....the POWER of CHEESE!!!
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:31 pm

Hey, hey--I have the power on this blog!

Really!

Are you guys listening to me?

Don't make me turn this blog around and take you all home . . .
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Postby xcheck24 » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:32 pm

i say we have the party in mudge's blog tonight ;)
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Postby TheMudge » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:34 pm

Now waitaminit . . .
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Postby Anblick » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:35 pm

What? The party's here tonight? Somebody call everyone!
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Postby Mlou » Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:36 pm

Oh, well...if you're going to be curmudgeonly...I suppose it IS your blog. Sheesh!! I suppose you're going to pick up all your marbles and go home now?
(What marbles are left, I mean.) :o)
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